diff --git a/code/nel/tools/pipeline/max_dump/info.txt b/code/nel/tools/pipeline/max_dump/info.txt
index 5e08801e4..54a3e0e80 100644
--- a/code/nel/tools/pipeline/max_dump/info.txt
+++ b/code/nel/tools/pipeline/max_dump/info.txt
@@ -151,5 +151,185 @@ SKIPPED: 0
 
 
 
+Chunk Header
+As follows:
+2 bytes ID, interpretation context (parent) dependent, often refers to a class or version configuration used to parse this chunk
+4 bytes Size, most significant bit flags whether the chunk is a container
+if Size is 0: 8 bytes Size64, idem meaning Size, support for large files
 
 
+Scene
+
+
+The Scene stream contains 1 root chunk, with as ID the version that the max file is stored in.
+0x2004		3
+0x2006		4
+0x2008		5
+0x2009		6
+?			7
+?			8
+0x200E		9
+0x200F		2008 (10)
+?			2009 (11)
+0x2012		2010 (12)
+?			2011 (13)
+?			2012 (14)
+?			2013 (15)
+The size of this chunk, including the header size, is equal to the size of the Scene stream.
+
+
+
+
+
+max 3
+       0 | 04 20 (id version)
+                 25 f4 20 80 (size + containerflag)
+                             00 00 (id)
+                                   40 00 00 80 (size + containerflag)
+                                               35 20
+                                                     0a 00 | ..%.....@...5...
+      10 | 00 00 02 00 00 00 01 25 0a 00 00 00 00 00 80 3f | .......%.......?
+      20 | 00 25 0e 00 00 00 00 00 00 80 00 00 00 80 02 30 | .%.............0
+      30 | 0a 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 03 30 0e 00 00 00 00 00 | .........0......
+      40 | 00 80 00 00 00 80 01 00 b8 01 00 80 01 00 0a 00 | ................
+      50 | 00 00 0d 00 00 00 05 00 08 00 00 00 06 00 02 00 | ................
+      60 | 20 00 00 80 03 00 0a 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 04 00 | ................
+      70 | 06 00 00 00 00 01 0a 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 00 | ................
+      80 | 20 00 00 80 03 00 0a 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 04 00 | ................
+      90 | 06 00 00 00 00 01 0a 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 00 | ................
+      a0 | 20 00 00 80 03 00 0a 00 00 00 02 00 00 00 04 00 | ................
+      b0 | 06 00 00 00 00 01 0a 00 00 00 00 00 80 3f 02 00 | .............?..
+      c0 | 20 00 00 80 03 00 0a 00 00 00 03 00 00 00 04 00 | ................
+      d0 | 06 00 00 00 00 01 0a 00 00 00 00 00 80 3f 02 00 | .............?..
+      e0 | 20 00 00 80 03 00 0a 00 00 00 04 00 00 00 04 00 | ................
+      f0 | 06 00 00 00 00 01 0a 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 00 | ................
+     100 | 20 00 00 80 03 00 0a 00 00 00 05 00 00 00 04 00 | ................
+     110 | 06 00 00 00 00 01 0a 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 00 | ................
+     120 | 20 00 00 80 03 00 0a 00 00 00 06 00 00 00 04 00 | ................
+     130 | 06 00 00 00 00 01 0a 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 00 | ................
+     140 | 20 00 00 80 03 00 0a 00 00 00 07 00 00 00 04 00 | ................
+     150 | 06 00 00 00 00 01 0a 00 00 00 00 00 80 3f 02 00 | .............?..
+     160 | 20 00 00 80 03 00 0a 00 00 00 08 00 00 00 04 00 | ................
+
+
+
+
+
+max 9 (stored under wine)
+Scene:
+       0 | 0e 20 (id version)
+                 00 00 00 00 (missing size)
+                             01 49
+                                   40 00 00 00 00 80 00 00 | .......I@.......
+      10 | 00 00 00 00 d0 00 00 00 00 00 00 80 0b 00 00 00 | ................
+      20 | 00 00 26 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 3c 29 06 5a 1e 0c | ..&.......<).Z..
+      30 | 42 30 60 11 00 00 00 00 00 15 28 23 04 00 01 00 | B0`.......(#....
+      40 | 00 00 0e 00 00 00 00 00 21 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 | ........!.......
+      50 | 00 00 04 00 00 00 00 00 82 00 00 00 00 00 40 00 | ..............@.
+      60 | 00 00 00 0e 00 00 00 00 00 21 00 00 00 00 00 00 | .........!......
+      70 | 00 01 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 82 00 00 00 00 00 40 | ...............@
+      80 | 00 00 00 00 0e 00 00 00 00 00 21 00 00 00 00 00 | ..........!.....
+      90 | 00 00 02 00 04 00 00 00 00 00 82 00 00 00 00 00 | ................
+      a0 | 40 00 00 00 00 0e 00 00 00 00 00 21 00 00 00 00 | @..........!....
+      b0 | 00 00 00 04 00 09 00 00 00 00 00
+                                            80 06 00 00 00 | ................
+      c0 | 00 40 ff ff ff ff
+                             0c 00 00 00 00 00 18 00 00 00 | .@..............
+      d0 | 00 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 | ................
+      e0 | 00 00 00 00 ac 00 00 00 00 00 00 80 34 20 00 00 | ............4...
+      f0 | 00 00 16 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ff ff | ................
+     100 | ff ff 45 20 00 00 00 00 12 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 | ..E.............
+     110 | 00 00 00 00 47 20 00 00 00 00 64 00 00 00 00 00 | ....G.....d.....
+     120 | 00 80 48 20 00 00 00 00 24 00 00 00 00 00 00 80 | ..H.....$.......
+     130 | 00 27 00 00 00 00 16 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 00 | .'..............
+     140 | 00 00 00 00 00 00 49 20 00 00 00 00 24 00 00 00 | ......I.....$...
+     150 | 00 00 00 80 00 27 00 00 00 00 16 00 00 00 00 00 | .....'..........
+     160 | 00 00 02 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 4a 20 00 00 00 00 | ..........J.....
+     170 | 0e 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 10 00 00 00 00 12 00 | ................
+     180 | 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 | ................
+
+
+
+max 2008 (stored under wine)
+Scene:
+       0 | 0f 20 (id version)
+                 00 00 00 00 (missing size)
+                             17 fe 01 00 00 00 00 80 (unknown 64 bits)
+                                                     00 00 | ................
+      10 | 00 00 00 00 d0 00 00 00 00 00 00 80
+                                               0b 00 (id)
+                                                     00 00 | ................
+      20 | 00 00 (missing size)
+                 26 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 (unknown 64 bits)
+                                         3c 29 06 5a 1e 0c | ..&.......<).Z..
+      30 | 42 30 60 11 00 00 00 00 00 17 10 27 04 00 01 00 | B0`........'....
+      40 | 00 00
+                 0e 00 00 00 00 00
+                                   21 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 | ........!.......
+      50 | 00 00 04 00 00 00 00 00 82 00 00 00 00 00 40 00 | ..............@.
+      60 | 00 00 00
+                    0e 00 00 00 00 00
+                                      21 00 00 00 00 00 00 | .........!......
+      70 | 00 01 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 82 00 00 00 00 00 40 | ...............@
+      80 | 00 00 00 00
+                       0e 00 00 00 00 00
+                                         21 00 00 00 00 00 | ..........!.....
+      90 | 00 00 02 00 04 00 00 00 00 00 82 00 00 00 00 00 | ................
+      a0 | 40 00 00 00 00
+                          0e 00 00 00 00 00
+                                            21 00 00 00 00 | @..........!....
+      b0 | 00 00 00 04 00 09 00 00 00 00 00
+                                            80 06 00 00 00 | ................
+      c0 | 00 40 ff ff ff ff
+                             0c 00 00 00 00 00 18 00 00 00 | .@..............
+      d0 | 00 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 11 00 01 00 | ................
+      e0 | 00 00 00 00 45 00 00 00 00 00 00 80 34 20 00 00 | ....E.......4...
+      f0 | 00 00 16 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ff ff | ................
+     100 | ff ff 4b 20 00 00 00 00 0f 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 | ..K.............
+     110 | 2e 00 10 00 00 00 00 12 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 | ................
+
+max 2010
+Scene:
+       0 | 12 20 (id version)
+                 1e 3f 02 80 (size+containerflag)
+                             00 00 (id)
+                                   98 00 00 80 (size+containerflag)
+                                               0b 00 (id)
+                                                     1e 00 | ...?............
+      10 | 00 00 (size 30-6=24)
+                 3c 29 06 5a 1e 0c 42 30 60 11 00 00 00 00 | ..<).Z..B0`.....
+      20 | 00 21 e0 2e 04 00 01 00 00 00
+                                         0e 00 (id)
+                                               19 00 00 00 (size 25-6=19)
+                                                           | .!..............
+      30 | 00 00 04 00 00 00 00 00 82 00 00 00 00 00 40 00 | ..............@.
+      40 | 00 00 00
+                    0e 00 19 00 00 00
+                                      01 00 01 00 00 00 00 | ................
+      50 | 00 82 00 00 00 00 00 40 00 00 00 00 0e 00 19 00 | .......@........
+      60 | 00 00 02 00 04 00 00 00 00 00 82 00 00 00 00 00 | ................
+      70 | 40 00 00 00 00
+                          0e 00 19 00 00 00
+                                            04 00 09 00 00 | @...............
+      80 | 00 00 00
+                    80 06 00 00 00 00 40 ff ff ff ff
+                                                     0c 00 | .........@......
+      90 | 10 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 | ................
+      a0 | 25 00 00 80 34 20 0e 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ff ff | %...4...........
+      b0 | ff ff 4b 20 07 00 00 00 2e 00 10 0a 00 00 00 00 | ..K.............
+      c0 | 00 00 00 00 00 be 03 00 80 35 20 0a 00 00 00 09 | .........5......
+      d0 | 00 00 00 4b 20 07 00 00 00 2e 0b 00 1e 00 00 00 | ...K............
+      e0 | 59 b4 8a 21 80 89 dc 25 60 11 00 00 00 00 00 21 | Y..!...%`......!
+      f0 | e0 2e 25 00 03 00 00 00 0e 00 19 00 00 00 00 00 | ..%.............
+     100 | 04 00 00 00 01 00 82 00 00 00 00 00 c0 00 00 00 | ................
+     110 | 00 0e 00 15 00 00 00 01 00 0f 00 00 00 40 20 81 | .............@..
+     120 | 10 00 00 00 00 40 0e 00 15 00 00 00 02 00 0f 00 | .....@..........
+     130 | 00 00 40 20 81 10 00 00 00 00 40 0e 00 15 00 00 | ..@.......@.....
+     140 | 00 03 00 0f 00 00 00 40 20 81 10 00 00 00 00 40 | .......@.......@
+     150 | 0e 00 15 00 00 00 04 00 0f 00 00 00 40 00 81 10 | ............@...
+     160 | 00 00 00 00 40 0e 00 15 00 00 00 05 00 0f 00 00 | ....@...........
+     170 | 00 40 00 81 10 00 00 00 00 40 0e 00 15 00 00 00 | .@.......@......
+     180 | 06 00 0f 00 00 00 40 00 81 10 00 00 00 00 40 0e | ......@.......@.
+     190 | 00 15 00 00 00 07 00 0f 00 00 00 40 20 81 10 00 | ...........@....
+     1a0 | 00 00 00 40 0e 00 15 00 00 00 08 00 0f 00 00 00 | ...@............
+     1b0 | 40 00 81 10 00 00 00 00 40 0e 00 15 00 00 00 09 | @.......@.......
diff --git a/code/nel/tools/pipeline/max_dump/main.cpp b/code/nel/tools/pipeline/max_dump/main.cpp
index 7d5ba3151..9443c4561 100644
--- a/code/nel/tools/pipeline/max_dump/main.cpp
+++ b/code/nel/tools/pipeline/max_dump/main.cpp
@@ -18,8 +18,10 @@
 #include "storage_stream.h"
 
 //static const char *filename = "/srv/work/database/interfaces/anims_max/cp_fy_hof_species.max";
-static const char *filename = "/home/kaetemi/source/minimax/GE_Acc_MikotoBaniere.max";
-static const char *streamname = "ClassDirectory3";
+//static const char *filename = "/home/kaetemi/source/minimax/GE_Acc_MikotoBaniere.max";
+static const char *filename = "/home/kaetemi/3dsMax/scenes/test2008.max";
+//static const char *filename = "/home/kaetemi/3dsMax/scenes/teapot_test_scene.max";
+static const char *streamname = "Scene";
 
 inline uint8 cleanChar(uint8 c)
 {
@@ -382,10 +384,10 @@ int main(int argc, char **argv)
 	GsfInput *input = gsf_infile_child_by_name(infile, streamname);
 	//gsf_input_dump(input, 1); // just a regular hex dump of this input stream
 	PIPELINE::CStorageStream *instream = new PIPELINE::CStorageStream(input);
-	//dumpContainer(instream, "");
-	PIPELINE::MAX::CStorageContainer ctr;
-	ctr.serial(instream);
-	ctr.dump("");
+	dumpContainer(instream, "");
+	//PIPELINE::MAX::CStorageContainer ctr;
+	//ctr.serial(instream);
+	//ctr.dump("");
 	delete instream;
 
 	g_object_unref(input);
diff --git a/code/nel/tools/pipeline/max_dump/storage_stream.cpp b/code/nel/tools/pipeline/max_dump/storage_stream.cpp
index 92d0daecc..e6bfab12e 100644
--- a/code/nel/tools/pipeline/max_dump/storage_stream.cpp
+++ b/code/nel/tools/pipeline/max_dump/storage_stream.cpp
@@ -122,6 +122,21 @@ bool CStorageStream::enterChunk()
 	chunk->OffsetBegin = CStorageStream::getPos();
 	serial(chunk->Id);
 	serial(chunk->Size);
+	chunk->HeaderSize = 6;
+	if (chunk->Size == 0)
+	{
+		// this is a 64bit chunk
+		uint64 size64;
+		serial(size64);
+		chunk->HeaderSize += 8;
+		bool iscont = (size64 & 0x8000000000000000) == 0x8000000000000000;
+		size64 &= 0x7FFFFFFFFFFFFFFF;
+		if (size64 >= 2147483647L)
+			throw NLMISC::EStream("64bit chunks not supported");
+		// downgrade to 32 bit chunk
+		chunk->Size = (uint32)size64;
+		if (iscont) chunk->Size |= 0x80000000;
+	}
 	chunk->Parent = m_CurrentChunk;
 	{
 		// temp memleak fix
diff --git a/code/nel/tools/pipeline/max_dump/storage_stream.h b/code/nel/tools/pipeline/max_dump/storage_stream.h
index 2e3149583..adf3c5968 100644
--- a/code/nel/tools/pipeline/max_dump/storage_stream.h
+++ b/code/nel/tools/pipeline/max_dump/storage_stream.h
@@ -54,6 +54,8 @@ struct CChunk
 	CChunk *Parent;
 	std::map<uint16, CChunk *> Children;
 
+	// Size of the chunk header, 6 for 32 bit, 14 for 64 bit
+	uint8 HeaderSize;
 	// Where the header starts
 	sint32 OffsetBegin;
 
@@ -63,10 +65,10 @@ struct CChunk
 	uint32 Size;
 
 	inline sint32 getSizeWithHeader() { return (sint32)(Size & 0x7FFFFFFF); }
-	inline sint32 getSize() { return getSizeWithHeader() - 6; }
+	inline sint32 getSize() { return getSizeWithHeader() - (sint32)HeaderSize; }
 	inline bool isContainer() { return (Size & 0x80000000) == 0x80000000; }
 	inline sint32 endOfChunk() { return OffsetBegin + getSizeWithHeader(); }
-	inline sint32 getDataBegin() { return OffsetBegin + 6; }
+	inline sint32 getDataBegin() { return OffsetBegin + (sint32)HeaderSize; }
 };
 
 /**